Teach 2 Dumb Dudes

Coralyn Jewel: A Conversation About Sex

February 14, 2022 Joe Bento Season 1 Episode 19
Teach 2 Dumb Dudes
Coralyn Jewel: A Conversation About Sex
Show Notes Transcript

Today we’re speaking to quite possibly the world’s busiest woman, Coralyn Jewel. A retired adult porn star, high-class escort, retired competitive athlete, porn director, swinger club owner, fitness trainer, wedding planner, talent manager, voice-over actress, coach, and speaker. Coralyn Jewel is the epitome of a strong powerful female entrepreneur. Join us in discussing Coralyn’s journey from figure skating, to organizing swinger parties, and even working at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch in Nevada. Be sure to check her out at www.coralynjewel.com 



Hello, and welcome to another episode of teach two dumb dudes. I'm Joe bento. And as always I'm with my co-host Rob Washburn today, we're speaking to quite possibly the world's busiest woman, coral and Juul. Carolyn is an author, a former Olympic level ice skater and coach. Adult film star and director swingers club, owner podcast hosts. Among many others join us in discussing Carlin's journey from figure skating, to organize the swinger parties and even working at the Moonlight bunny ranch in Nevada.

Bento:

Hello, coral and who we've never met before.

Rob:

All right. Thank you so much for coming back and kind of doing this again with us. We do appreciate it. And again, apologize for that, but again, very, very gracious of you. So thank you very much. We do appreciate it. We did not want this conversation to get lost because we did enjoy it.

Bento:

We did just for the listeners, I pulled the ultimate dumb dude move and I forgot to record the interview. So Farley was gracious enough to come

Coralyn:

back the podcast, like two dumb guys, right?

Bento:

We've always said, no matter what we do, that's dumb. We can just blame it on.

Rob:

I need,

Coralyn:

I need one of those, you know what though? Like after that, like, cause I did two interviews this morning for my podcast and I was like, make sure I press record. Like,

Bento:

oh, I'm glad I could help.

Coralyn:

All right. How are you guys doing today? I'm

Bento:

good. So

Rob:

there we go. done with the day's work and now doing what we enjoy. So, changing it over and so again, thanks for coming on. And again, we'll start off with the please give us your, your background and kinda, where you get started in all this and kind of what's led you down the road to where you are

Coralyn:

today. Oh goodness. Okay. So, pretty much the summary. Okay. The sorry, where I am is, I was an immigrant from South Africa. I was an Olympic figure, skating, hopeful. And so a lot of what I do now, where I am is how do you go from that? Married two kids, theatrical degree, coaching the team in Sweden to divorced working as a dancer, a model. Ultimately getting a job as a director in the adult industry, going on to work in the adult industry and then into legal brothels in the Nevada area. And then how do you take all that and end up running a swingers club with now 20,000 members writing a book book becomes an international bestseller. And then from there going on to doing podcasts, sex, positive podcasts, I'm now a writer for various sexpert sites going on to get my certification and masters in psychology. And Gosh, where am I now? Yeah. And seminars and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. So it's really just about, life throws you these curve balls and what you do with them. Sometimes you don't always make the right choice as my book states. And, and where I ultimately, ended up in my destiny and where I'm going with everything. So

Bento:

I just started reading your book. It was very good so far. Yeah. I like the whole, it's a, it's a shorter book, which is nice, but so far it's a very good read, like starts off right. To the point. Yeah, it's good.

Coralyn:

No, I love that feedback. I, I have anybody who has read my book on Amazon giving me the review. This keeps my book at the top there. I'm working on my second book and that was something that my, my, my publisher has said to me, she said, Keep it short people like a short read, keep it simple people. Don't like big words, cause I remember that when she took my book, I kept saying, wait, I forgot about this. Or wait, I forgot about that, honey. Your story is never going to be done. Your book, you never gonna be done telling your story. So this is a summary of your life and then you'll do series and then your next one will focus just on the swinger lifestyle and your next one, we'll focus on what it's like to be an adult performer. And so I'm working on, I'm on my second book right now. I'm halfway through and it's all about like running a swingers lifestyle club and what that's all about and the legalities and the funny shit that I've seen. So, oh,

Rob:

it's perfect. Can't wait for that one. So let's start at the beginning then. So right. The after the Olympic journey and trying to do that figure skating, I know you had told us that there was a you had an initial. When you were fingers getting that kind of put the kibosh on your skating career, unfortunately. Yes.

Coralyn:

Yes. So. Everybody, not everybody, but, growing up, like my entire life was skating. That was my life. So, I was known as like the blue ball cream, because I would not ever have sex with anybody because I didn't want to take the chance of getting pregnant or, if I would go out with friends and they would drink or they would smoke or do drugs, like I just didn't do it. So, because my figure skating was like my number one goal. And so when I moved to, I left my house when I was 16, I moved to the Olympic training center up in a. Lake Arrowhead. And I traded like Michelle Kwan and then I moved to Madison, Wisconsin. And that was where I got injured. I was skating with my partner and we were getting ready for the national trials for South Africa. And I can't even just say he dropped me because like he got a cramp in his leg and he like fucking threw me like across the freaking ring, collarbones broke my rib and the two ribs. And then but I still kept trying, like, I still had like, I'm fine, I'm fine. I'm fine. And then I led down a path of painkillers and just not good. And so. 1818 and 19. Yeah. So

Rob:

was that pressure, like, I'm sure skating in this environment with people like Michelle fond, like holy crap. That's a lot of pressure.

Coralyn:

So I think in, in a, in any sport, in any competitive sport one thing I always like to let people know is that I didn't have those parents that forced me to do it. Okay. So it wasn't like those coaching parents. My parents let me, th they were amazing because I would say, I want to go to the Olympic training center and they supported me at 16 years old. And they really, financially supported me. It's an expensive sport. But it's, I knew, I knew. About age 13 or 14. I knew I was never going to be good enough as a single skater as a female. So, so I started to pursue partners and as I started to do that, I was good, but I knew that I was never good enough for the United States. And that's when somebody had mentioned to me, aren't you from South Africa and do they have a team and could you represent them? And I still had dual citizenship, so that's kind of led me down that path. But, but yeah, I mean, my life at the age of 1819 here I am living in Wisconsin. And it's like, oh my God, I can't skate anymore. Like, I really, I can't, continue to go down this path. I was in so much pain. And so I had to kind of like start over, I guess, like now what am I going to do? What do I want to do?

Rob:

W w what were those next steps then? I mean, at that point, you're, you're 19 years old and you're like, holy shit, everything I've worked towards forever. I came

Coralyn:

back home. I rolled in college. I always wanted to get a degree in theatrical production. I liked performing, and I am ultimately had, anticipated going to the Olympics and then opening up my own circus distillate show on ice, which still has probably for a reason it's very dangerous, so I came back home to go to school, and then I got offered an opportunity to move to Germany in an ice skating show. And the demands of, you're still skating and you're still performing, but it wasn't to the competitive level where I was in pain. So I left college and I went, and I did that. And. After that I got, I ended up it's a whole, then I ended up moving to North Carolina because then I got offered a scholarship and was Carolina. And I thought, okay, let me try the skating again. So I just, I really didn't want to leave my sport. And that ultimately led me to meeting my husband at the time and we got married and then we moved to Sweden. And so I coached the skating team and Sweden's, I think the path I went down was coaching. I was like, okay, I can still coach. I can still share my art, share my knowledge. And I coached for a long time. I coached North Carolina. I coached in Sweden. And in fact, it's interesting that my book I'm doing a documentary on my book and the girl that plays the younger me is an ice skating student that I've taught when she was 10 years old. She's now 30 and she plays me. And it's, so it's like, it's just an

Rob:

interesting circle. You're developing a documentary on.

Coralyn:

Yes. Yes. It's almost done. We're done now. It's going, it's all getting sent off to my editor in New York city, and then he's starting to put it all together.

Bento:

I

Coralyn:

don't know yet. So, so, I just had an interview. I just interviewed a girl on my podcast and she was a mainstream actress, producer, director, screenplay. And again, her story is interesting too. I always say everybody has a story, how she went from. To the BDSM world to stage performing at Dungeons to training and then ultimately into webcamming and then the adult industry. But I said to her, Hey, when my documentary comes out, do you have any like way of helping me get into like film festivals and stuff like that. So we'll see,

Bento:

oh, a couple of guys take a look at it early and give you some feedback. Yeah.

Coralyn:

And what's really cool about the documentary is I tried as much as possible to actually get the people who are in my story to play themselves in the documentary. Like I started dancing in a strip club down in San Diego and the owner of the strip club I knew from high school. And so he plays him. And we filmed it there. And then we actually filmed at the ice skating rink where I first started training. And when I called there, I said, Hey, I used to be a skater there. I'd like to speak with, whoever your director is to see if I could get some ice time. And it's the same director that was there when I was three years old. She's still there.

Bento:

Where did you go to high school?

Coralyn:

And adding California San Diego

Bento:

area. Oh, okay. I thought was somewhere else. I would say unbelievable that you meet somebody in a strip club in San Diego. They went the high school, even though the high school in San Diego is still

Rob:

incredible. But if there was like,

Coralyn:

So the way that, the way that, that all came about was I started modeling after my divorce, I was just looking at different ways to make extra income. And somebody, one of the photographers said to me, do you know anybody? That's got a nightclub that we can do a photo shoot in? And I was like, no, I don't. So I got on Facebook and I typed in like, Hey, do any of my friends know anybody that has a nightclub? And my girlfriend wrote back. Yeah, Dino Dino from high school has a place. So I reached out to Dino. Do you know? And he said, yeah, of course I don't open on a Sunday till 6:00 PM. You can use it. We didn't know it was a strip club when we go down there, my photographer and I show up and I'm like, did you know? And he's like, I wouldn't, how would I know? Did you know? And I'm like, no. So we go in and my is like, okay, climb on the pole, hang upside down. And I'm like, fuck you. Like, I, I was 35 years old. I've never danced on a pole or anything. And Dino came out and he's like, Hey, can I talk to you for a second? And he's like, you should, yeah. And I think you lost your mind dance, and it was him that said to me, you've got the personality and we get, businessmen that come in on lunch breaks and you'll make $800 a day, at least. And I go, okay, where do I sign up? So that's how I started dancing. And then that led to a friend of mine, said there's a club down in Coachella, which is like out in India called Springs area. And they only like they have all these rich, golfers that come in on the weekends and they only got white. They only got like Mexican girls dancing and he's like, you should dance there. And I go, oh yeah. And get my fucking ass kicked. Sure. No, like, no, but I'll bodyguard, I'll be there and I'll stay for the whole thing. So I started dancing there on a Saturday night and from there. Manager had said to me, who actually was, it used to be a porn star that I didn't even know, but he says to me did you ever use to like dabble in the lifestyle? Cause he had kind of heard me talk to other girls and I said, yeah, my husband and I did. And he says, well, the owner of my building wants to do a swingers event here and we'd like you to write it. And that led me down a whole nother path of like, oh my God, I've never done that in my entire life. And before you knew it, I was renting a mansion around the corner from here and I was starting swinger parties. And now here we are 2012, I started that and we're 2022, I've got 20,000 members. That's awesome.

Bento:

So, so take us down that, right. What's for someone that's not in the lifestyle or has been in the lifestyle. What's the typical process from just wanting to go and then leading up to the party and what's the party like

Coralyn:

it's okay. So, it's interesting because a lot of everything's a learning state, everything's a learning process. Like I said, I used to go to events with my husband. I didn't know the first thing about running events. I didn't know, websites that you could go to or how you know. And so everything I've done is learning. I've gone through lawsuits and a lot of bullshit. You know where we are at now. So if somebody wants to go to my events, the first thing they have to do is set up a profile on the website. Okay. Once they're approved, they need to buy a membership. And what that does is that just takes away a lot of the legalities out here in California, because you're a private club.

Rob:

Wow. Is that, what does that mean once they're approved? Is there like an actual approval process? Yeah,

Coralyn:

I need to make sure are they 21? Okay. I need to make sure that their email phone number is valid. Okay. When they submit a photograph, it says, don't, you don't have to put a nude photograph. And if you don't want to put your face, that's fine. You can, blow out your face or whatever. But if they apply and they put a picture of an airplane or like a van, like you're not serious, I need to make sure that they are who they say they are all that, and if it says, like, how did you find us? And they skip that or tell a little bit about yourself and it goes, I eat to pussy. Well, I'm not interested in you. There's gotta be a little bit more substance people get weeded out. In that process. I have 400 applicants that I have not acted. And 400, at least that I have not accepted, but here's the thing that's interesting. When I send out my newsletters, apparently I just found this out. It goes to those applicants still. So I was like, what, what, what the fuck? I never accepted them. So now I have to click this button that says, don't go to applicants. But and then let's say somebody shows up at the party. Okay. So now they've been approved. The first thing my door guy will ask them is, have you been doing, have you been doing hanky-panky event? No, we haven't. Have you been to a lifestyle event before? No, we haven't. This is our first, so no, I haven't because I take singles as well, and that's why we have earpieces. So he'll notify me. Hey, I've got some new guests at the door, come meet them. And I kind of go through the quick rundown of like, the rules and the etiquette of the lifestyle, just to make sure that we're all on the same page. My website has it too. It says the rules. And then have I ever had issues? I, this is the one that I write articles weekly. And one of the biggest things is that single males have such a bad rap in the in the lifestyle and yes, there's bad seeds. So

Rob:

I mean,

Coralyn:

that's the problem, because, because my biggest, like my biggest challenges or issues. Are the women. The women think that because the, the saying is women rule the lifestyle. That's the same. They make the ultimate decision. Okay. So a woman thinks that it's okay to come over there and grab my boobs or grab a guy without asking. And so sometimes the women are more aggressive than the men. And so, yeah. So read, regardless of you are a couple, a single lady or a single male, you get the same down rules for me. And and I watch everybody, they always say that I've got eyes behind the back of my head, come on, whatever everything was going on. And if somebody is breaking a rule I'll call them out on the microphone. So I'll say, please turn your attention over to these people that are fucking in my pool, even though I told them no fucking in the whole,

Bento:

how many people do you typically have for a

Coralyn:

party? So before COVID, I would say. 200, give or take depends on where my venue is. Don't have to put a limit on it during COVID we limited it, and and now it just really, it really just depends on the venue.

Bento:

For a party of 200 people, how many people on staff would you have to have for that?

Coralyn:

It's about 15. So I'll have, I'll have to work in the door. Okay. One does the check-in when has the wristbands and, and then we have a release liability form. So usually like one person will do both of those. And then I have a security guy, so I've got an NTIs guy and he's amazing. And he just stands there. He makes sure that nobody leaves. And he keeps an eye on, things that are going on. I've got two people that work the playrooms, so they go in and out and make sure the sheets are changed. We provide everything. We provide sheets, towels, condoms, lube. I mean, he makes sure that no, we have a, no, we have a no lock door policy. You can close the door. Okay. If you want privacy, you can close the door, but you can't lock the door. And that's for sakes of like emergencies and stuff. I got to I've got a bartender and she's got a backup. So it's a BYOB. So the rule is, is that you can't sell alcohol. So I have got to cheat, they bring their own alcohol. We provide them mixers

Rob:

and really the whole rule

Coralyn:

there. Well, you can bring, you can bring your own, you can bring

Bento:

your own. Sorry.

Coralyn:

Yeah, no license to sell it. And then and then if you do an event, like what we call a meet and greet at a bar. Okay. So, the, I get the door of the bar gets this alcohol sales, then there, ABC laws is no nudity. So that's in California. So for example, if the strip club that I used to dance at that's 18 and up, so that's, you can be nude on stage, but no alcohol sold in that venue. And if you do an event at like a topless bar, then alcohol assault. So, then I have a security guy that I've got my security guy at the door, and then I've got another security guy that walks the property. So just making sure that there's no, no fights or, and we always are pieces. So that way if there's an issue, my team knows that if there's an issue I'm called. They'll watch me, but I'm called first to see if I can, take down the situation. I used to, man, I used to manage a strip club out in California and we had issues with the hell's angels and the Mongols because of wearing cuts and stuff like that. But I, I stopped pretty much any, any fight that would have occurred, just by just, just being chill, just saying, Hey, listen, we're only here to have a good time. Take off your goddamn cuts. It's less clothes I have to take off of you later. And let's check it out at the time. But when you're starting with that test testosterone attitude,

Rob:

like my that's what the problem was or the

Coralyn:

cats. Yeah. Yeah.

Bento:

If you're a member of those organizations, like you don't take your cutoff.

Coralyn:

Yeah. You just yeah. They just leave on whether, that's their motorcycle club or whatever it is, but we had too many issues in there, so we had to take, take that down. So,

Rob:

okay. So this is the rule within the establishment. So Hey guys, no cuts because we don't want to cause more problems.

Coralyn:

And then it might at my events right now. I mean really like I've had to like off the top of my head, two issues where my security team had to step in just to. One time I brought the SWAT team in my favorite stories is Watson.

Bento:

Let's say the SWAT team story. And then after the SWAT team, I want to hear some, like, some really crazy funny story. Yeah. So the

Coralyn:

SWAT thing was an interesting one. So we did an event at a hotel it's called a hotel takeover. Okay. So it's a four-story hotel. We take the whole thing. It's all my guests. We have our dance rooms, whatever. So what happens is so I had forgotten that management, let me know that due to what happened in Las Vegas at about four o'clock in the afternoon, before my party started a SWAT team was going to be on the roofs of all of the downtown San Diego buildings because of what happened in Las Vegas with that shooting.

Rob:

Okay.

Coralyn:

Yes. But he let me know, they let me know, just let your staff know, but your guests aren't even going to know SWAT's going to go up at 4:00 PM. They're going to come down at four eight. Nobody will know. And I'm like, okay, perfect. Well, I forgot to tell my step. So that's the one thing you have to remember. Okay. Second thing is that. So my security guy came over to me later on in the evening and he said, I've got four people in the dance area, bathroom, and they're fucking in the bathroom. And he's like, they won't come out. I've knocked. I told them that, they need to go to a playroom. They won't come out. So I knocked and I said, Hey, this is your host is you guys, the reason I rent three rooms with bathrooms and play rooms is so you go fucking those at anybody that wants to just dance and P can use this bathroom. So he opened up the door and one of the men and he came out and he says, what's your fucking problem? And I said, again, my problem is that you don't need to be in here, whatever. And my security guys watching me. So then I say to him, and then see, he shoved me. He like pushed me. Okay. So I go, Ooh. Okay. So now we can handle this one of three ways. I walk you downstairs very quietly. Cause you're done. Okay. So the four of you are done so we can go quietly, bring no attention to my security guards right there. He'll take you with his other team members downstairs a little bit more attention on you up to you. Option three. Okay. You're not going to like, and he goes, does. He got very, very aggressive with me, bitch, dah like that. And so I looked at my other security guy and I go, go ahead and hold him. So then they put him down and I popped my head up onto the roof and I go, don't shoot me. And then they turn around and I go, Hey, how busy are you guys? And they go not busy. And I go borrow like two and they go, do you have an issue? And I go a little bit and they go, here's four of us and said, force, walk down with me, walked into my party. Everybody's like, what the hell? And I looked at the guy and I go, I chose option three. And then they did well.

Rob:

And then I have them on hand, huh.

Coralyn:

And then check this out. I interviewed somebody on my podcast way in the beginning of my podcasts. And it turns out that he he's, he was shot. So he's now not an officer anymore, but he was one of the SWAT members up on the roof.

Bento:

Wow.

Rob:

Wow. Small world.

Coralyn:

That's one of my

Bento:

interesting story. We have a lot of these small world encounters with people, right. We were

Coralyn:

just talking about that earlier. I was interviewing a girl on my podcast a couple hours ago and I'd met her briefly. I won't go into all the details, but the long story short is when I was with her two weeks ago at one of our exhibit shows or expos up walks a good friend of mine by the name of Jack Cannon, who was also a guest on my show. And I was like, Hey baby. And I said, I want you to meet Erica. And he's like, Erica, and I know each other, like we shot together. And I said, and then like, I introduced her to like J crew, a good friend of mine, and they knew each other and then come to find out Erica and him had their own radio show for a year back in like 2001. So you just see it. So that's a small world for sure.

Rob:

Now, when it comes to, back to the lifestyle. So like myself, I've never been to any of these events or anything like that. My wife and I have discussed it in the past and, and, always said, we have one day we'd like to try as well. Yeah. But we've just never taken that step, and so like, what would you recommend for people like us who, might be a little curious, but don't really know too much about it. So

Coralyn:

what's really nice now is that when my husband and I, we dabbled in it, there really wasn't, from what we knew there wasn't like websites. We, we didn't know. Okay. So we got on the internet and we typed in like, Twitters and we ended up going like Craigslist and Craigslist, sent us kind of down on a path and, which led us to meeting a couple who said, oh, you should try this website. And so on. And so on now, here we are, that was 2009, 2010. Now there's so many different Facebook groups, there's podcasts, there's blogs. And then there's a lot of, numerous adult websites that are Springer websites. So like, I always tell people that if they go to my my coral and Juul, so it's correlate C O R a L Y N, Juul, J w E l.com. If they click on trial, Okay. I've negotiated with all these different websites to give my listeners a three, a free 30 day trial to try the site. Okay. Which kind of gives them an idea where they can read forums and they can learn stuff new before was stuff like that. And then of course my podcast and I do blogs, I do weekly blogs that say, the etiquette of the lifestyle. So I always tell people that's the first thing. And then the other thing is that, which was really important to know is that people's, society makes it that swingers, okay, it's a husband and wife or boyfriend or girlfriend that go to a party and they're ultimately there to fuck somebody else, and end of discussion. That's what it is all about full swapping. And that's not what it is. That's not what it is though. I mean, there are, there's so many different variations and aspects of the swinger lifestyle community. There are voyeurs. You just want to. That's a turn-on to go watch. And then you go home with your partner and you do your thing, or you want to go be watched. Do you want to go and go to a play room, get on a bed, but nobody else is allowed to touch you or get on that bed next to you. And you're an exhibitionist you want to get up, having people watch you, or maybe you're looking for that elicit unicorn. You are a husband and wife and you just, your wife wants that female experience. You're not going to touch the other woman. And and then there's a hotline thing where maybe like a husband and a wife he doesn't, he's gonna get his wife a boy toy and he just wants to watch her be with a younger man. So there's so many different variations and aspects. And the only way that you like you and your wife or anybody else would know what you really like is by kind of going into try it, and then I always tell people, sometimes when fantasy meets reality, it's not always what you expected. It doesn't mean that you say, okay, well that, that sucks. We're never doing it again. Okay. Why did it set? What happened? Where did we go wrong there? Do we want to try it again together as a couple? And then the number one thing, if you go into this lifestyle is a couples communication,

Rob:

for sure. For sure. And explain the, the wristband too. I know that there's like the wristband system once you go on his parties, how's that.

Coralyn:

So again, again, some people do that, some people don't. Okay. So for example, when you check in some locations will say, do you, do you want to wear a wristband? Well, we have to wear a wristband regardless. We all have wristbands. Okay. Because we know that you're in there by different colors. So like red means like we're brand new. Like we're just checking this out. Don't, don't overstep boundaries into this. And then like, the yellow is like, we're a soft swap couple meaning. We'll do oral. We'll do kissing. We'll do playing on the same bed, but we will not do full sex. Okay. And then agreed is like, we're at all down to five couple, we're ready to go. So, but I always tell people a couple of things. I always say when you meet a couple or a single, whoever it is, can you meet somebody at an event? You're there for the same reason. So it's okay to say, Hey, listen, we're brand new. We're just checking this out. Thank you so much for the invite to the playrooms, but we're not ready yet. And just be honest about who you are, your experience, what you're looking for, or, Hey, listen, it's really nice to meet you guys, but we're actually, just, we're just looking for a unicorn or we're just looking for a hot wife or whatever it is. And then I also say very important. Let's say you agree to go to a play room with someone and you're in the situation and something doesn't feel right. People always say to me, well, I went through with it because I didn't want to hurt their feelings. We are grown adults. It is okay to say we apologize, but we're going to stop this, and kind of one partner wants to stop, yeah. And the other partner maybe is, it looks like they're having a good time and I can give you an example of that. It, as a couple, it is okay to look at your wife or your girlfriend and say, Hey, babe, We got to go, baby. Okay. And at that point you don't stop. You don't look at your husband and say, but, but why, but why? No, no, no, no, no, no. You just say, we apologize. You guys, thank you so much. There's an issue. And we're going to go, and then you discuss later with that issue was because so many times when I counsel people, because I do coaching it's well, he did this and he did that. And then he told me, they, they do, what's called taking one for the T. Well, he, me, I had sex with that, man, because he wanted me to, and that he wouldn't let me do this and don't do that. You've got to, you got to communicate and don't do the, taking one for the team and don't do the hall passes. I just think you're going to open it up a door for disaster. So.

Rob:

Perfect. That was great. Thank

Bento:

you. Any female I've ever had sex with is taking one for the team long, long time since 2004. Yeah.

Coralyn:

2004. Got you guys look

Bento:

young. I'm 41. He's

Rob:

he's a baby.

Coralyn:

How do you guys know each other?

Bento:

We actually just started work at some place in 2013 on the same day for the same position. And we I found out he likes soccer. He found out I liked soccer and it just kind of blossomed from there.

Rob:

So in terms of in terms of, what people are looking for at these kind of lifestyle events explain the setup of the rooms a little bit more, right? So you have your playrooms and obviously that's where you can go and have fun with, with whomever you want. Now. Like you said you can close the door if you want. So does that mean, like, you'd go around, you find somebody who maybe you're interested in another couple of you're interested in, and then you all go in the playroom and now like that's your room or kind of like other people still able to come in if they're

Coralyn:

yeah. So, okay. So again, every dish will always remember this, every single club that any, like, if you're listening to any club that you guys go to has their own rules. Okay. A lot of us have of the, the basic rules based approach. There are no cameras, no cell phones no touching without, no means no, no touching without asking. So you've got those basic rules. Okay. No drugs on property, stuff like that. But then each other clubs, each club has their own rules. So my rules are that you see the reason we don't lock the door. Okay is because I don't know who you've gone in that room with. I don't know if you're under the influence that, and if you're screaming health, health, health, and we can't get in there. And then the other thing is I do have a time limit on my room. Okay. No, it's about an hour, and my security guys, they'll go knock and say, Hey, listen, you guys, we've got people that are waiting for like the playroom. Do you know if we're a really busy event? But I do make sure that I have enough opportunities for places to go. And then I have a rule where I don't want people in the main, I call it the club area. Okay. So the dancing area, that's for socializing. That's for dancing. Okay. Yes, you can, get, get a little naughty on the dance floor, but ultimately if you're going to play, I say, go to it. That's why you have a room because other people are there and they're brand new and maybe that makes them feel uncomfortable. So I really try to create a comfortable environment. There are venues where they have pools and they'll let you. Have, do blow jobs in the pool and squirt in the pool and fucking the bull. I won't, I won't, I don't want to swim in your GEs.

Rob:

Yeah. So

Coralyn:

I will, I will, I will absolutely get on the microphone and say, Hey guys, just a quick announcement. I'd like you to draw my attention, draw your attention over to Tammy and Shawn over there, not following the rules, whatever they know. Like, that's why they say you have eyes in the back of the head, how'd you even see us, I do. But yeah, so that's, that's how my, my rooms are set up. And then, like I said, we go in, my staff will go in that then, make sure we run laundry throughout the event check the condoms, aloof the sheets and everything. And I mean, I'm the girl that I'm a safety girl, so I'll go into a room and be like, you guys just need, and they're like, yes. And I'm like, why are there no condoms on anybody? But that's me. I'm a different one.

Bento:

So you also ran a brothel for a little while, too. Right? I worked at a brothel.

Coralyn:

So I liked it. I like the actual, like I like, like, I like my job, but it's, it's a sorority house, so much drama and I was older, so I was like, I was like the mommy of the drama. Yeah. So, I worked at one of the legal brothels up in Nevada and I, like I said, I go back to that whole thing, that curve ball thing, because I was working on set. I was working, I was in the adult industry as a performer and I was on set with Nina Hartley and there was another girl on set with me, Sable, Renee. And I was asking Sable. So like, where are you living now? And she says, oh, I live in, I live at, up in Reno at Dennis has a bunny ranch or whatever. And I work up there and I'm like, what's that like? And she's like, I love it. And I'm like, she was my age. So I was like, but isn't it weird being like the older girl? And she's like, no, because the men, they prefer. To pick somebody who's, more within their heads or whatever. And it was her who kind of said to me, Hey, do you want to do it? I got you, you can go to this place or whatever. And so, I liked it. I'm still friends to this day with some of my customers. And in fact in my documentary, I play out some of those scenes. But it definitely is a sorority house with a bunch of fucking bitches. Like Jesus only, only I say only three times because the way that it works is okay, you have to, you drive to Las Vegas. Okay. And then you go get tested. Okay. You go to like, they actually, they did full on testing. Okay. Then you go up to the brothel. Okay. Then you turn in your testing paperwork. Then they give you this form and you go another 45 minutes to a town called Pahrump where you go to the Sheriff's station and you actually register as illegal prostitute, which is a very, very long thing. You take your Bravo card, your legal prostitute, and you're testing that to the brothel. And then you work okay. A week later, you got to do the whole testing again every week, every single week, you test the Bravo cards every three months. And you're paying for all this too, by the way. So, yeah, so for me, after my, before my three months ended, I was like, I'm not gonna do it again. Just to get some plus it was the girls. It's not the brothel laurels, and I'm

Bento:

not, if I'm a customer and I plan on going in there, do I have to get

Coralyn:

tested? No. Interesting. No. It's a good question. Well, the thing is, so there's a lot of, it's really interesting to me when I worked there, I was actually shocked because we are not allowed to give a blowjob without a condom. We are not allowed to give a hand job without a condom, or we have to have gloves on. We are not allowed to have any semen contact our skin. Okay. So my mind. He's poor men are paying a thousand dollars for a rubber hand job. Like I have this weird

Rob:

rubber

Coralyn:

hand gel. You could. Okay. So you decide your own prices. Well, you decide your own prices

Bento:

for a grand, a pop, right.

Coralyn:

50% of whatever you make goes to the house. And even like, let's say you do a tour. Okay. So a lot of times they'll call, lineup a little bit like a lineup, and it'll be two ladies standing there to grandmas. And they're like, we just want to see a brothel in avatar. We picked correlate. Okay. So if I give them a tour and then they give you a $20 tip, I have to go to the house mom and say, I got to $20. And then I give it to her and it gets recorded on my time sheet. And I get 10 of that. And Yeah. They say that Dennis was Dennis used to send in spies. Okay. So, to the T if you're stealing. Cause if you get, once you go to your bedroom, okay, there's no cameras back there. So if a guy says to you, Hey, that was awesome. And he gives you a hundred dollars bill. You better go up to the house mom and give her the a hundred dollar bill and say, I was tipped a hundred dollars because that could have been a spy. I never, ever, ever stole money. I just didn't. I didn't, I felt, I really, really felt like morally that he was giving us a place to legally work and safe, safe environment. And so I never even would even think of pocketing a tip, even it was a $2 tip. I just turned it in, because I really, but I know a lot of people pocketed.

Rob:

And so you did, so you did live there.

Coralyn:

Yes. So, a lot of the girls, that was another thing, a lot of the girls will live there full time. Okay. So now here comes in this bitch porn star, who gets to come in on a Thursday it's Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, go home Tuesday and you're invading their territory. And then the way that it worked is if you did not make a certain amount of money for the house daily, you paid like a $20 per night fee. As long as you made the money, they, they provide, we had a kitchen and they provide, they bought all the groceries and they would cook a dinner for us. And then if you wanted to go eat your own food and then put it in the refrigerator and just label it, it was like a respect thing. Don't touch somebody else's

Bento:

food. Wow.

Rob:

How many women are living there at once? Every

Coralyn:

house? Every house is different. I believe my house has. I think there was like eight rooms. So when you show up, they, if you, if you're not the girl that lives there full time, like you're like needing to show up, they give you whatever rooms available. And then when you're done, you're responsible for, vacuuming doing your bathroom and washing all your sheets and towels and your comforters and making that ready for the next girl that comes in. And so what was interesting? I think this was another reason that girls didn't like me every time that I would come. So there was a backroom that was called daddy's room. Okay. So, Dennis Hoff, his daddy. And if he ever wanted to come down to this area, that's his room. Well, if they knew he wasn't going to be there, they would say, okay, Carolyn will, you're going to take daddy's room. So I got the big, beautiful room in the back of the nice paths of it in the shot. So I got the nicest room with like a bar in it. So that's daddy's room, but like, to this day, I'm still really, really good friends with one of the girls that I met there. Like we're like the best of friends.

Rob:

Yeah, sir. And so how, how many how many clients did you see on like a daily, weekly kind of basis? I mean, is it ever a revolving door or no.

Coralyn:

No. And that was right

Rob:

because it was big money.

Coralyn:

It's expensive to come there. Yeah. I mean, again, like I said, we took our, we pick our, our rates of what we want to charge, but but you could go, so some, some, some brothels now you're actually on like, a shift. Okay. You're on shift from 8:00 AM, till 5:00 PM. Again, ours was 24 hours a day. You're on shift. Okay. So that meant if I went to sleep at 3:00 AM and the doorbell rang at 4:30 AM. Okay. We better get our asses up and into the lineup. And so we did what was called sleep pretty. Okay. So when you go, like whenever we go to sleep, we were doing this in my documentary, but I would go to sleep at night. I'd be in laundry. Okay. And I'd already have my makeup done. You'd sleep with your makeup. And then right by my door would be. Perfume mint out. I would go, because you never knew you could sleep a whole night or you could be woken up 10 times a night and then sometimes, you'd get woken up and it would just be guys that are on the motorcycles, just wanna have a beer. Cause we had a bar, and then you could be sitting there all day long. So like, let's say you are, get on the shower and the doorbell rings. You better go line up and you're telling your slippers, like you're gonna have to be lineup. Or if you were working out, get off the bike,

Bento:

so because was in a lineup too. I mean, you're not making any money for yourself either.

Coralyn:

Yeah. Yeah. And then like, what was interesting when I started to notice it's like the girls that had been there a long time and lived there, they wouldn't show up. Cause they were sleepy and they never got, they never got in trouble, and I, when you, when you first, like when you, when you first check in, they give you, it's very funny. They give you the bunny book. Okay. I know your listeners can't see this, but the buddy books like this fricking big, okay. Take this big, heavy book. And you're reading through all the rules and everything. And one of the biggest rules is like, get your ass to line up. And, but I got a lot of clients because the other girls didn't show up to lie at the house. Mom would be like, I'm so sorry. We just have correlate. And I'm like, just like

Bento:

you, there are repeat customers that will walk in and specifically ask for someone anyways. Right. Without seeing them.

Coralyn:

Yes. I mean, I know that does happen. Okay. I'd never happened when I was there, but also you can, there's a, there's a there was a website. Okay. And so, the girls will post on the website, Hey, I'm going to be in VR, at, alien cat house. This is my tour, they called tour schedule. And so then maybe if your regulars are members of that site, they can be like, oh, you know what, I'll make a trip out there. And they would tell us like okay, our drivers going to Vegas to pick up a high roller be prepared for a high roller to come in this evening. And and then all the girls are on anticipation at that whole pretty woman. Like who's going to come in here and sweep me away,

Bento:

oh, this is interesting

Coralyn:

Because everything that I do now, one of the biggest things I always tell people is I can't, I can't be a counselor or coach you or guidance you on drug addiction or what w what it was like to be sexually abused or, sobriety from alcohol. But because I haven't been in those shoes, but can I counsel you on the adult industry? Can I counsel you on a brothel? Can I counsel you on the sooner lifestyle I can, because I can share my, my guidance and my mistakes and help you with that way. But that's one of the things I always talk about. So I'm glad I did it because it gave me the knowledge of the different side of the adult industry. And

Rob:

so talk to us about what you're doing now with the coaching stuff.

Coralyn:

Okay. So where am I at now?

Rob:

Is that part of your podcast as well? The coaching aspect,

Coralyn:

or, oh, it all comes together, which is interesting. So, when I, when I wrote my. Okay. I, I, let me tell ya and anybody that's listening, who knows me and they're going, oh God. Okay. My grammar and my spelling is fucking awful. I have a college degree, but it doesn't matter. Okay. So, when I was approached by, I was at the AVN awards and I was approached by a journalist who said, Hey, I've heard about you. And I wanted to talk to you. And it was him that savvy down, listen to my story. And he's like, you have to do a book. And I'm like, I'm not a writer. And he's like, I'm going to help you. Okay. That's how it happened. So when I wrote my book, never, ever, first of all, I didn't even know how the book was going to get published. Okay. But it gets done when it got, became an international bestseller, then I started to get approached by people like, you should do an online coaching program and you should do a podcast and, and you, you do a document. You and you should do this and you should do that. And so all those, that's why, again, I say that curveball thing, all these things that led me to where I am now I do the lifestyle coaching, but I, the reason that came about is because my publisher came to one of my events, a couple of my events, and she said, you spend half your evening breaking up a fight or talking to a couple or, whatever it is, you're counseling. She says, you need to tell people, listen, here's my card. You call me later. We set up an online session. You're right now you're a hostess. You shouldn't be a counselor. And she was right. And so that's how the lifestyle coaching started. And then from there I started doing blogs and then the podcast. And then from there, I started getting asked to come and speak. Okay. And so now I travel and I do a seminars and I talk about like finding your true sexuality and being true to yourself and being who you are and not being one of those people that, is 65 years old and said, I should've would've could've should've left that job. I should've left that toxic marriage, whatever it is. And my newest venture, I can't really share yet because it was the way my brain works is really, really weird, but I was interviewing somebody this morning and him and I said to him, I said, Hey, I have an idea. And so I suggested it to him. And then my next interview, I was like, This works like all three of us, and then I thought of somebody else. So I'm onto something and I'll share it soon, but we'll see where that takes me. It's really

Rob:

good. Good, good. Leave there. So what

Bento:

have we got in the future? We got the documentary coming out, right.

Coralyn:

Or. Yeah. So the documentary documentary is going to the editor. Okay. Shortly my camera operator, my director in LA. He actually has currently, as COVID so better, he's taking all the two and a hard drive that goes over to the editor. Hope he feels better. I know me too. I was actually. All two weeks ago. And I was like, and he contacted me. He said, how you feeling? I said, I'm fine, baby. How you feeling? And he's like, I got open. And he said, are you sick? And I go nap, but that thing can't catch me. I move way too fast. So I always say even my PR lady she's like Jesus Curlin,

Rob:

but it might

Bento:

be, they say that. I tell ya, I have all the people that I know. Right. I know this is very anecdotal. This is not scientific in any way. So it would just disclaimer here. But the people that I know that smoke a lot of weed have not gotten COVID, but everybody else that I know that doesn't smoke.

Coralyn:

I read that. I read that online that they were like saying that, but then some people were saying no, but my buddy, I'm, I don't remember a site called X because it's a free site. K, but it's for the adult industry. And so I read that's how I get my news. I don't watch the news. So my news comes from experts and Facebook, but they were talking about that too. And I've got a lot of, that's a whole other show talking about, this stupid virus, but let's go back and say, Well back to like the fun stuff. What am I? So documentary is going to be releasing. My my guess is six months. Okay. We, one of our, one of our issues that happened was my ice skating student had to go back to renew her visa okay. In England, and then they shut the borders. And so she couldn't come back here to finish. We had to do a little bit of finagling on my documentary to fill in with the scenes that we hadn't done with her yet. I'm working on my second book. Okay. So I really need to get my ass like going on that my podcast is into its second year and then I've got my blogs and then I'm writing for a couple of different sites. I'm still shooting in the industry. I'm still running my swingers clubs. I am a wedding planner, which I've been doing for five years, but I've kind of put that on bay because brides are worse than anything in the world. And so are their moms. And and then I'm traveling and I'm doing seminars. I've got my books. I just developed a CBD personal lubricant it's trademark. And so that is now being distributed to wholesalers and retailers to be out on the market. So that's the coral and Juul loop. I developed a swingers lifestyle game, the hanky panky lifestyle game, and that is available through my website. And then my biggest idea of venture came to me this morning, which I can't share yet.

Bento:

So I guess the biggest question is where do you find the time for all of this?

Coralyn:

I don't have time. I do, I do pull all nighters. People think I'm crazy. My brain, I'm not a morning person. I interviewed somebody this morning at 11:00 AM. I set the alarm for 10 and I was literally laying there going, I'm going to shoot myself for making an 11:00 AM. Okay. And the reason is though my brain really goes into. So, yeah, 12 o'clock one. O'clock when I'm like, okay, I'm tired. I want to go to bed. And then just something comes to me or if I'm laying in bed and I come up with a chapter, I have to get up and dictate it to my phone because otherwise I just can't sleep. So,

Rob:

the day two, then right before I fall asleep, I always like, like you have those, those visions of something.

Coralyn:

Yeah. It's, it's really true. And then like when I was interviewing that gentleman this morning. Okay. So he's a therapist. And again, we talked about, how do you go from where you are to where the therapy now, this is a man that was raised Catholic sex is out of the war, not don't even talk about it and have a sex therapist and stuff like that. But I said to him, I was like, I have an idea. And I said that to him. And he says, I like it. And I said, okay, I got to work on this a little bit more because my brain, my brain it'll come to me when I'm not focused on it. And literally, like, I was like, I was at the gap. I was at the gas station and I was like, I got it. And then here I am, I stopped my car and I put them emails together to him while I was there. So it was okay. Where were you? What were you saying?

Bento:

For all this stuff? Yeah. Oh

Coralyn:

yeah. And then the, so I don't date. I just can't. I just can't, it's not fair, I get people, people, well, you get your fans, but then I get people that write me on swinger lifestyles, like saying, Hey, listen, do you have, do you want to play or whatever? And I'm like, Nope. So don't date don't really have a social life. Don't really want to go out. It's very interesting. Like I have to force myself to go out. And then when I do go out, all I'm thinking about is like, I almost want to come home to my little, this is my little room.

Bento:

That's my life right there. As soon as I go out, the only goal after I go out is how I'm getting ready to go home.

Coralyn:

And anybody that knows. They're like, but you're like the social butterfly, and that's how it was. But I went to a swimmer's event the other night. It was a Saturday, Friday night, Friday night. Because a friend invited me and I was like, I don't want to go. And they were like, you don't even see us anymore. We want to have dinner with you. And I could find, and when I went, I cannot tell you how many people were like, oh my God, she's actually come out of the house. We didn't think you existed. It's not like that. So, I got to discipline myself to finish my book. Yeah.

Rob:

I would say it doesn't sound like you have much time for any of that. So I got to finish my

Bento:

thoughts. People always make fun of me and say, why, how come you always want to be home? Anyways, when you're home, it's comfortable in all my things. I need a better reason.

Coralyn:

Also like for me, the podcast is time-consuming the blogs, I have to do a blog every week to go with them. I'm writing for other sites. I work, I write for medium as well. I write for sexpert. I just finished my certification and now I'm going to go on to do another two certifications. And on top of that, I still gotta finish the book. We got to get this documentary over. So there's not.

Bento:

Yeah. Right. Well, sounds like everything's very fulfilling. So everybody can check Carlin out@coralandjewel.com your book when the ice melts, it's on, Amazon's where I got mine from. Anything else?

Coralyn:

Just like, so the easiest thing that I always tell people is if you go to the coral and Juul, C O R a L Y N J E w E l.com. Okay. You can get to everything from there. It'll say shop Courtlands special jewel box, and that'll take you to my website with the game, the lube, the calendar. I have a calendar. I have a limited edition calendar out and that's an uncensored. It'll take them to all that kind of stuff. If they want to book coaching sessions, if they want to book seminars, book signings photo shoots modeling. I still do all that. The podcasts. Everything links from that one website to the different sites is easiest way.

Bento:

What Carlin, I was a little nervous about doing the second time. Cause conversation about fresh. We had a whole new conversation. I feel like we could do this again and

Rob:

have another pair. Right? This is a really good, I still have more questions. So

Coralyn:

you guys can have me back. I do that just so you guys know I'll do that with my guests. I'll do follow ups with my guests and bring them back on what do you have to now? Cause I think,

Bento:

yeah, the documentary comes out or the book releases, whatever comes first.

Rob:

Yeah. Come on, come on. This check and book comes out for sure. Yeah. I'll give you some plugs

Coralyn:

for it. Please do. And thank you for having me. And when you're done reading the book, please go to Amazon and give me a review. That's all I ask. Unless if you'll like the book, if you don't like the book, don't give me.

Bento:

Yeah. I'll tell you why just cause you can't, if you don't like the book, I'll give you a good review just to help you out.

Rob:

All right. Crawling, have a great night. Thanks so much. Good luck What's w magazine.

Bento:

I have no idea of woman, I guess

Rob:

is an Oprah Winfrey's no.

Bento:

That's oh, tell me don't feel bad because I thought Oprah Winfrey. I need to think about that. I was just like yellow bitches. Love Oprah.

Rob:

I should have a searched for w magazine, the latest from w magazine, right?

Bento:

For me, come in 47 different ways.

Rob:

This is amazing. First article eight hours ago, Kanye west and Julia Fox. See slave play in New York together amid dating rumors. Jeff bayzos news style explained he's from Miami Katie Holmes ushers in statement coat season in dark green Pico.

Bento:

I was like, I think it was fucking Peter Griffin. Oh my God. Who the hell cares, right? God, it's all I can think about. Kanye. Seen it slave play.