Teach 2 Dumb Dudes

Sarah Juree: Fired For Only Fans

October 10, 2022 Joe Bento Season 3 Episode 4
Teach 2 Dumb Dudes
Sarah Juree: Fired For Only Fans
Show Notes Transcript

Should a struggling single mother be fired from her job for what she does off the clock? Sarah is a former school teacher and while struggling to make ends meet, decided to start an Only Fans page. She was fired for the decision, which was actually suggested by her boss and leaked by a washed-up, misogynistic, disgraced journalist.  This is much more than just a story about getting fired, but about women empowerment, personal choice, and hypocritical society. 

Sarah:

Well, honestly, like think about the Dick Pick culture, right? Like one guy I talking to on a dating site, Hey, you should sell lows. Except me. It is a hello. He sent me 132

Bobby:

Holy and

Sarah:

32. Like he had them revved up, ready to

Bento:

go. I dunno. You wanna see my dick that many

Sarah:

times? Yeah. Yeah. Lots of men love taking these pictures at work, but it's like, have

Bobby:

you ever, It's crazy. You should, you should collect 'em all and sell a coffee table book

Bento:

I should. What's up Brady buddy. Welcome to another episode of Teach to Dumb Dudes Bento, as usual with my boy Bobby. Today we're talking to Sarah Ju. Sarah is a single mother of twins on a teacher's salary. She worked for six years, uh, living in the poverty cycle. She decided to start an only fan's account by the recommendation of her boss we should mention, and then she was later fired for that, for make, for the same reason making only fans account. Uh, we talked to Sarah about her timeline the journalist that completely upended her life, uh, and you know how she's doing now with her only

Bobby:

friends account. As always, please more feedback like subscribes, clicks, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. We're on all of them. Thank you as always.

Bento:

Hello? Hey, Sarah. How's it going?

Sarah:

Hey, good. Do I need to turn my video on?

Bobby:

Yeah, there we go. I mean, we appreciate, just for the conversation. We, we don't, we don't publish any of it anywhere, so No worries. Just the audio, that kinda stuff. Yeah. Yeah, we just like it for conversation sake.

Sarah:

Alrighty,

Bento:

Awesome. So how's everything going? You're in Ohio.

Sarah:

I'm

Bobby:

in Indiana. Indiana. Oh, Indiana. Indiana. Gotcha. Out, out there somewhere. Right. in the Midwest. We're on the east coast and little, we're on the East coast and little round. So, you know, geography, once you get out there, it's kinda beyond

Bento:

us. Ohio and Indiana are probably the same to us. So

Sarah:

Yeah. Is like the state you drive for, to get to Chicago,

Bobby:

so, Right. Yeah, exactly.

Bento:

Exactly. Oh, the corn out there, right. Cornfields, Gare, Lots of cone. Yeah.

Bobby:

A TV show that was up, right? What's the TV show? Pawny Indiana. Isn't that one of them?

Bento:

That was Park and Rec. Parks

Bobby:

and

Bento:

Rec, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. That's right. Well, you go ahead, Bobby.

Bobby:

Well, Sarah, thank you so much for your time and coming on, uh, and teaching us all about your story and, uh, your only fans account and how silly it is for teachers these days. And so thank you so much for, for taking the time and joining us

Sarah:

today. Yeah, thanks for having me on. I appreciate it. Course there's been a lot written about me, so it's nice to be able to like, share my story from my point of view.

Bento:

Sure, sure. Yeah. Uh, so how, how new is this? I, I noticed like, you know, the articles come up pretty quick and fast, so it looks like it's fairly recent, right?

Sarah:

They did, yeah. It all kinda transpired at the end of June. Oh, so this year. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Interest couple months ago, six weeks ago

Bobby:

or so. Yeah. Mean we were, the stuff we saw out there, I mean, you know, all over the UK press and everything. Must, must great for your only fans

Sarah:

account. Very helpful. And I found out on my Instagram page that I was like, really big in, uh, Brazil. Brazil, huh? I have all these Brazilians on my

Bento:

Instagram page. Oh man. They gotta try to come over and get a green card from you. That's K one Visa. That's yeah. Sarah. So just kind of tell us a little bit about yourself. You know, like, you know, we know the, the gist of the story. You know, you're a school teacher you know, decided to start your, You're an only fans account cuz we all know how well teachers are paid

Bobby:

in America. Yeah. Uh, yeah. How, how long had you been a teacher

Sarah:

at that point? Yeah. Well, at this particular job about six years mm-hmm. I, uh, primarily have been in informal education, so I'm more of like the field trip teacher. Right. Which I like to say is like the aunt of teachers, Like, you come to me, we have a lot of fun, and I send you back to

Bobby:

your real history. Sure. Yeah,

Bento:

yeah. Right. Get 'em all hopped up on sugar and here you go, And Right.

Bobby:

And you, and you were working at a school, it's called Star Base.

Sarah:

Yeah. It's, it's a program funded through the Department of Defense. So it was a STEM academy, science, technology, engineering, and math. And the fifth graders would come to us for five visits and we would do lots of fun stuff. Like we would teach them about circuits and how to program Lego robots and the engineering design process, build seat belts for eggs and crash 'em into the wall. Mm. That's awesome. My teaching name was Buttercup actually there as well.

Bento:

Oh really? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Cause I saw some comments saying that they were, you know, you having your students call you by, you know, your only fan's name. And I was like, that sounds kind of weird. So it's, it's good to know the truth there that it was actually your

Sarah:

teaching name. It was my teaching name and it was just this like sweet little nickname cuz I'm blonde too, so. Right. I just used it as like lots of my usernames. I would use it for, I don't know, like profiles. Yeah, sure. It was just buttercup. But yeah, I saw the way he tried to like really twist it into some perversion. Yeah. Nobody has called, I mean you can call me Buttercup, but it's definitely not a name that I'm called on

Bobby:

only fans. Yeah. Well it cause a lot of those articles certainly did portray it that way, that you had started the only fans under the name Buttercup, and then your students had started calling you that after the

Sarah:

fact. No, yeah. He really took something like very sweet and dear to me. And yeah, this guy I think is like pretty mentally ill, to be honest with you. He has, he has a history of trying to get teachers fired in the community actually. So, And who, who is this person? He is like he is a scorned former journalist that's been fired from all the local news stations. So now he's a blogger, a basement blogger, and a surprise, surprise, his ex-wife is a. Teacher, teacher. And so now he has this like crazy vendetta about teachers, but it's, it's, it kind of goes beyond like the exploitation. Even like what he did for me, he, he really writes some pretty disturbing, perverted, like every, if you read any article, he calls every teacher or groomer or a communist. I had a friend, I had a friend last fall, I didn't know this, but her boyfriend, uh, actually the guy had written an article about him, posted his address, called him a communist because he had Black Lives Matters on his oh my God. Facebook profile and then, My friend's boyfriend almost got fired from teaching. He over the summer after me was picking on a gay band teacher at the high school trying to get him fired, calling him a, So it's like this guy is like total illegit, illegitimate.

Bobby:

Yeah. It's like predatory journalism there. Yeah.

Sarah:

Right. Mentally ill is

Bento:

what I would say. Like So is this the guy that exposed you in the only fancy family? Yeah. Ah, okay. So how long, you know, you teacher there for six years? You know, how long was it that you had the only fans before this guy tried to expose

Sarah:

you? Like two weeks. I, Oh, that's it, huh? It was great. New and, uh, I've been a single mom for about five years and I've tried every. Side hustle, you could imagine. I did ing, I did uh, sublimation, I bought sublimation equipment and taught myself how to make shirts and mugs and Tumblrs. I did, uh, reading tutoring, I did keto coaching. I got my group exercise certificate. So I was like mother hustler, like sure, sure. I would teach, do the after school program, do reading, tutoring, make shirt. It's up before bedtime. But, uh, yeah, I was like working so hard ju but getting further and further in this poverty cycle that I just could not get out of. And I loved my job, but I only got a raise every three years. I didn't get health insurance. So that was

Bobby:

uh, Wow. Cause you, you were considered a part-time employee. Is that why? Contract. Oh, contract. Wow.

Sarah:

I get out of it. So I didn't get health insurance and at the time my rent was $1,100 and my paycheck was $1,600. So even between my rent and the health insurance, that's not car insurance. That's not car payment. That's not

Bobby:

groceries. Boo close

Sarah:

Jesus. Yeah. Yes. And then, you know what happened when the gas prices went up and like, listen, the Dollar Tree and even the Dollar Tree. It's the dollar 25

Bobby:

now. Yeah. Right. And it sure is. You know,

Sarah:

it was like you know, I was just feeling the squeeze and uh, I had a local friend who's like a mom and she was like, Hey, I just made $10,000 on only fans this month. Whoa. Yeah, your

Bobby:

face is my, That's what it is, right? Cause to you that lights up like, wow, that's game changing money for myself and my kids.

Sarah:

It was like I, I just had like a couple goals, like pay my, cuz I got into a lot of credit card debt, so I had to sell my car back to the bank. Yeah. So I was like, I wanna buy my car back. I wanna pay my credit card stats off and I wanna take my kids to Disney World. Like those three goals.

Bobby:

That was a good

Bento:

goal.

Sarah:

Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I could actually do that. I could do that. I wanted to see, I was supposed to have July off of work, so my goal was while I was off work, see if I could get this going for myself. And then what's interesting is like, this is crazy, a couple days. I had to go and I ran the summer camp program, but I had to go back to work. I ran a couple summer camps and I had just started my only fans page. I wasn't doing much on it cuz I was busy working. And my coworker comes into work one day and she was like, Hey, my husband just went to North Carolina for a bachelor party. And he said, and she said they had a stripper there and the stripper charged $600 just to show up to the party. That's not tips just to show up. So my coworker was saying like, Yeah, I should start an only fans page. And then she was like, Well, I might have my husband do it because gay men love him. So we're having this perfect. How funny. Yeah, it was funny. Then my, but my boss said, Yeah, you two should start an only fans page. You should, uh, sell your panties on only fans, men love panties and you'll make a lot of money.

Bobby:

Yeah,

that's

Bento:

true. So your boss at the school suggested this? Yes. Oh my god, my boss. So in my, and I work in an office, and I'm not anyone's boss, thank God, but if I ever told any of the females there that they should start an only fans and sell their panties, like I'd be walked out of there within a couple

Sarah:

hours. Yeah. Well, here's the, the crazy thing for me is like, I was like, Oh, well my boss is cool with it. I'm not like, in my mind I was like, Well,

Bobby:

my, you

Sarah:

were clear. It was, it was like the it was like the reassurance I needed Sure. That my dad was gonna be okay. And So that, that happened like on a Thursday. That blogger messaged me on Saturday, and by Monday I was fired. Wow. But my boss never brought up the conversation, the only fans conversation. Because of that conversation, I started to promote my page because if you listen, if you don't have fans, you ain't making

Bobby:

money. Something. Sure. Right. You have to do that

Sarah:

promotion. Sure. Yeah. You have to make a funnel, You gotta tell people about your

Bento:

page. And what were you doing for promotions? So like how, how, how did that

Sarah:

go? Mostly Facebook, because I've been single a long time, like five years. And what I did was I had like, 3000 friend requests from men. So I just went in and like accepted them all.

Bento:

And you just had 3000 friend, friend requests just from random men that you'd never met before.

Sarah:

Yeah, just,

Bento:

just, it's funny, you know, it's funny hearing you say this cuz like, I'm like, I'm not a woman, I, you know, I don't know about the walking alone at night and things like that. And you know, I hear stories from women saying that they're constantly harassed online on Instagram or friend requests and hey baby, this and that. And I was like, that just sounds crazy. Like what kind of guy would just like go around and do that? And it's funny to hear you say that 3000 friend requests just waiting in your, who thinks that that's work? Like,

Sarah:

Yeah man. So, Well what, The reason I would not accept the friend request is because they like, They will go straight to your inbox. But in my mind I was like, Oh, I'm gonna accept the friend request. I'm gonna let em move right to my inbox and I'm gonna hit with my fans for sure. Right? Yeah. Free. I was like, they're spamming, so I'm spam.

Bobby:

Fair game to me. Yeah.

Bento:

So is that how this blogger found

Bobby:

your page?

Sarah:

I, I'm

Bento:

guessing he was probably one of the guys that sent a friend request on like a, you know, on a fake profile.

Sarah:

He 100% was. And what's even crazier about the whole situation is, He took the photos from my only fans page. Like on Facebook, you cannot have X-rated photos. They don't allow it.

Bento:

I've tried looking. You can't find them.

Sarah:

That's right. You gotta go to my

Bento:

only fans page, right? You gotta go Twitter or something, you

Sarah:

know. That's right. Tweet it out to you. So. He went to my only fan page, uh, screenshoted my photos that he paid for and then used the same photos to like exploit me. Oh my God. Like there's a whole bunch of illegal that happened with that. Cause it's my Yeah. Cause

Bento:

it's

Sarah:

copyright protected, right? It's, it was, and it still had the only fans watermark on it and everything. And it like there's revenge porn laws. Like

Bobby:

you can not just Right,

Sarah:

right. Share people's nude photos on Facebook. Right. So it's kind like, wow, you had an issue with me like selling these photos on a private site behind a pay wall. Right. But you literally did the same thing for financial game. What he tried to do was use me as click bait Right. For his article.

Bobby:

So, Wow, So, so kind of walk us through that. Right. So this guy, he finds your stuff, he puts it all on Facebook. At that point, do you have legal recourse to stop this person from going further with this? I mean, how does that work in your position?

Sarah:

I did try. So he had messaged me like on a Saturday, basically told me he was gonna get me fired and write this article about me. And I tried like every avenue I could. I tried to report it to only fans, but, uh, he's hosting the pictures on a private server. So they were like, Well, there's nothing we can do. And then I tried filing for a protective order because I was hoping that the courts would intervene for her harassment and make him take that article down. Uh, and I, I produced my termination letter and the nudes and stuff that he used. Well, the courts deferred my court date for a month. And by that time he had already gotten me fired. It had already been in the New York Post and

Bobby:

Oh yeah. The damage

Sarah:

had been done by then. Yeah. And then he took my term, like the man has written like five articles on me. So he took my termination letter, hit it behind a pay wall to make people pay to read it. Jesus. Wow. And then made fun of me, like, called me a liberal cry baby for even trying to uh, get a protective order against him. But this guy is like, he has a domestic violence charge against his, uh, ex-wife. Of course. He has a drunk Right. He has a drunk

Bento:

driving charge of, I mean, all these dudes do. Right. He's probably got a fuck Joe Biden flag running from his truck too. I'm sure. Yeah. That now. Yeah. Oh yeah, I know this type. We got him out here too.

Sarah:

It's like complete narcissist. He's like, Sure. He's not just right wing conservative, He's like extremist, right? Like, like aligned with

Bento:

Like he was probably at January 6th.

Sarah:

100%. He definitely

Bento:

was Probably had photos. He probably had photos of you in his pocket. See,

Sarah:

he had the Viking

Bobby:

hat on. Yeah. Right. So you had no legal recourse though, in terms of. Getting the photos or getting to him to stop using those photos?

Sarah:

No, I haven't. I feel

Bobby:

like that's kind, I feel like that's crazy. Like I understand, you know, if it's online use only, but if he's making money off of those things, that's where it becomes illegal

Sarah:

now. Yes. And I, my hope is that I could find a lawyer that would be willing to, Right. Help me with this case because I need someone who like wants the publicity of the case.

Bobby:

Somebody trying to make a

Sarah:

name. Yeah. Somebody that's trying to make a name that once, like, it's like, like the way he created it is very tabloid ish, but also like the things that he wrote about me was just complete slander. It was really heartbreaking to read some of the things like, listen, I'm a mom, I've been a teacher for almost 20 years. Like kids are very safe with me. I love my job. I think most reasonable, reasonable people understand that, uh, people know how to conduct themselves in a classroom or a boardroom and that they likely have a sex life outside of work. Yes. Right. Exactly. You know, I'm also single and celibate. I've been celibate a long time, and it's interesting to me because it's like, I've been on dating sites for many years and they're very predatory. We talk about the lookup culture. Men send unsolicited dick pics, but they, that's not considered pornography. I've never heard of one man that's ever lost his job by sending dick picks to women, and, but it's like I, I post a nude photo. In a private platform, and that's considered porno pornography. Like something's wrong with my body. But

Bento:

truthfully, none technically. I mean, technically it is pornography. I mean, she a naked, you know, Playboy is pornography, but it's, it's that porn pornography has like that derogatory meaning to it, you know what I mean? Because we've made it that way. Like, to me, I think about we've made that word dirty and it shouldn't be, you know, like you said, you're, you're, you're not doing anything that's non-consensual. You know, you're not with anybody. That's, that's, you know, you're a consenting adult. It's, it's totally legal what you're doing in every sense of the word. It's

Sarah:

legal, it's private, it's consensual. It's with adults. Right,

Bento:

Exactly. But I would, a child, a child can't. That's what I mean here. But if you're a parent, you can go home and bring home a six pack and drink in front of the kid. Nobody says a word. You know what I mean?

Bobby:

You're not having sex on this ex, on this only fans. Right. It's just images.

Sarah:

It's just images, some videos, but they're mild.

Bobby:

It's like, that's what I mean. You're, you're not engaging in sexual intercourse with another person. Cause like, to me, to me that's pornography. I mean, we've had naked pictures of men and women since antiquity. I mean, they were drawn, knew about that. Right. There's nothing new about any of that. It's just a new medium in which we have to serve it to each other. And so that's where, and that's where I don't really understand like the whole like, pornography, Like that's not really pornography. Right. And I mean, I know that it's one of those like weird taboo debates about n nude photos in public settings. Like there was, you know, one, uh, you know, in the government building, there was a, a depiction somewhere. And it became like a big issue. And all I could think about is like, well, like what does this even matter?

Sarah:

Well, and that's what, for me, it's, it's crazy because it's like, listen, I was on dating sites. Like five years. Okay. Mm. There's nothing that I've done on only fans that I wasn't doing on a dating site. Right. Sexting or FaceTiming or whatever. Again, private, consensual, but with that hookup culture and stuff, people would've, they would've felt more co comfortable and I would still have my job if I had an actual revolving door of men in my bedroom. Yeah. Right. Yeah, right. It's crazy and I feel like if, if virtual sex or a platform like only fans was more, Like it didn't, if it had less of a stigma.

Bobby:

Yeah. It's very taboo. Yeah. It really

Sarah:

is a, a good platform for people to express their sexual energy. You're not hurting anyone, you're not getting anyone pregnant.

Bobby:

You're

Bento:

safe yourself. You're not scamming anybody. I mean yes, everybody's willingly

Bobby:

giving you

Sarah:

money. Yeah. You're not manipulating, like, like as a woman, I would feel like on dating sites, men manipulate you for sex because they know like, Oh, you want a relationship? I gotta, Right. I gotta play

Bento:

this. Uh, they take to dinner and pay for it. They expect something in return. Those kind of things.

Bobby:

Yeah. Right. Yeah. Well that's, that's the other thing too. Your safety is immensely stronger the way you view us now versus anything in person, Right.

Bento:

I know. I mean, my wife and I had this conversation before about, you know, Before the internet and everything else, like, you know, a lot of women would just be escorts and, you know, we all know how that ends up at the end of the night. I mean, there's a lot of safety issues involved in that and, you know, both physically, you know, mentally you know, disease wise. So yeah. You know, with this, every party involved is safe, which is a nice thing

Sarah:

about it. Yeah, it is safe. And you know, there's like some people that are like, well, who's on your only fans page? But it's like a variety of people. It's like people like myself, like I don't like the hookup culture, so it's like just a safe way for me to release and explore my Sure. Yeah. So it's like people like me who are celibate, there's like a man on there who, he's a widow and he just lost his wife, so he's not ready to date yet or be with someone in person. But this is like a way to. Have connection with someone. You know, just lots of different reasons that people are gonna want to be on the platform. And I just feel like truthfully it was made way too big of a deal. I wasn't doing anything at work. This was all off the clock. Right. I would, I feel like truthfully I was managing my sexual energy in a very responsible way. Right. Sure.

Bobby:

You know? Right. I mean, damn, how many teachers we hear about gonna have sex with the kids instead. Right. Well that's, it's crazy how many people there are out there doing that. That's

Bento:

devious. And where the hell were these teachers when I was in high school, nowhere to be found.

Bobby:

They were locked up. Right,

Bento:

right. That's true. So what about from the school side? Like what was their recourse and how could they legally fire

Sarah:

you? Well I knew I was getting fired because it was like my first day of summer break and my boss called me, he's like, Hey, I need you to come to work and you need to bring your laptop. Oh. And uh, so I knew, Yeah. So it wasn't my, like my boss, the one that told me to sell my panties, it was his boss that fired me. And Indiana is a right to work state. Yes. So technically they could fire you for

Bento:

an It's such bullshit.

Sarah:

Yeah. And it's so interesting cuz it's like I had the only fan page. I just started it. I taught the summer camps. My boss sends a text out and is like, Great job on summer camp Sarah. Excellent. I mean, right there has showed you like Right. I'm able to compartmentalize

Bobby:

like Right. And do both. Yeah. Right.

Bento:

Did you speak to a lawyer at all about possibly suing the school for what your boss had said to you?

Sarah:

I did, but I got hooked up with this lawyer who like there was always an issue, like when all of this went down, he was on vacation, then his family got covid, then he got covid, and yeah, it was like things were happening so fast. And then basically he was like, Well, there's nothing I can do for you. And even like, uh, suing the guy, the blogger, he was like, Well, listen, we can sue him. Does he have anything? And he already, That's fair point of lawsuits against him because this is what he does. So constantly slandering people. Mm. And he's in the middle of a divorce, so I imagine he's losing his house or whatever

Bobby:

all his assets are.

Sarah:

Yeah. So, I don't know. I mean, I would. It. Maybe I'll get hooked up with a lawyer that will do this pro bono for me.

Bento:

Like just to make Yeah, I was gonna say, it's been it pretty soon, so hopefully getting your story out and you know, Yeah. You know, on podcasts like this and things like that, somebody will listen to it and be like, Oh, I wanna help her out.

Sarah:

You know? Yeah. Please help

Bobby:

me out. It is really interesting from the school perspective though, but I mean, you know, especially being a A D O D run program I mean, I have to assume that, you know, anything that, you know, kind of goes against their reputation, they're gonna, you know, frown upon. But Yeah. What I don't understand is the on clock versus off clock kind of ruling, right? Cause like, my sister's a high school teacher, and, uh, one of the things she says to me all the time is like, you know, going out drinking, she can't like go out drinking at places where she could run into her students because she's afraid. Because technically if she was super intoxicated in public, that could be pounds for her termination.

Sarah:

Yeah. But you know what? I will tell you this is like Interesting because I do wanna talk about working for this d o D program. Mm. So that, uh, the National Guard Armory housed the program and it's very interesting to me because I was sexually harassed there for years. I bet. Wow. Years. I had a soldier I had to get a protective order against. He was har, he was harassing and stalking me. I walked a group of fifth graders by, uh, a room that he was in and he kicked the door so hard that the glass shattered. And There was, uh, this guy that worked in the computer room. When I would do rockets with my students in the hallway, he would come and stare down at the kids and I over the balcony, this was so common that my boss had to go like, Bring this up. This is an issue. And there was a general that, uh, came for a program we did a photo op with, and he grabbed my ass during the photo op So I'm like, one of the captains at the building got fired for sexual harassment. One of the generals of the state got fired for sexual harassment. Right.

Bobby:

So I This place a stellar reputation. Yeah.

Sarah:

Right. What's crazy to me is like, listen, You had no problem knowing that I've been sexually harassed for years here, years, and as long as I stayed quiet about it, everybody was okay. But the moment I take the sexual exploitation and I use it for my financial gain, everyone has a problem with Right, of course. Right. So I guess that's the, that's the part for me that I'm

Bobby:

like, this feels such like a men women thing too. Like, like we were joking around and Bento said the other day that, you know, if men got pregnant, like you'd be able to get an abortion on every corner.

Bento:

Well, yeah, you'd be able to drive through. You wouldn't be able, you wouldn't

Bobby:

have to get outta a car. Like it feels like that kind of situation, like Right. If it was a dude out there selling nudes, like everyone would be like, Ah, stupid Paul, whatever.

Sarah:

Well, honestly, like think about the Dick Pick culture, right? Like one guy I talking to on a dating site, Hey, you should sell lows. Except me. It is a hello. He sent me 132

Bobby:

Holy and

Sarah:

32. Like he had them revved up, ready to

Bento:

go. I dunno. You wanna see my dick that many

Sarah:

times? Yeah. Yeah. Lots of men love taking these pictures at work, but it's like, have

Bobby:

you ever, It's crazy. You should, you should collect 'em all and sell a coffee table book

Bento:

I should.

Sarah:

Well now on only fans, I didn't know this was a thing, but I actually made a little report card up and I do dick pick ratings now. So I actually,

Bento:

my,

Bobby:

I'm so glad you brought that up. So good. So

Bento:

I'm the interwebs right in my time, going to sites that you know are unsavory. I keep seeing this thing about dick ratings. What, what is with this? What, what is this new, new thing, new culture?

Sarah:

I don't know. I I will rate it though for 10 bucks and you

Bento:

literally, you literally just give them a, a letter

Bobby:

grade.

Sarah:

Yeah, I do. I made a little report card. I had a fam that was like, Hey, listen, I'm really into the teacher fantasy. I want you to do a decorating, but I, but please put it in a report card format. And I was like, Oh my God. Mocked up this cute little, uh, report

Bobby:

card. And I was like, Dick, report card. That's terrific. Yeah. Good for you. What a good idea that is. You're getting them anyways. You might as well make 10 bucks for each one. Yeah. Look at it. Go. Yeah, exactly. I

Bento:

think I got a new idea for a new business. Me and you Bobby teach you dumb dudes. Dick ratings You book.

Bobby:

I'm, that's all you be honest though, you know, like

Bento:

Oh,

Sarah:

wow. Crazy though. It's like, in a weird way, like being on dating sites and stuff, it, it like, Flipped the script and it's empowered me in this, in this way where I was not empowered on the dating side. Right. Control. And I will tell you, everyone, I, I talk to my fans and only fans are the nicest people. They are so kind like the nice, they're the so nice.

Bento:

You see like a lot of weirdos on there or anything. I always, I always thought

Sarah:

about that. I mean, I, some of them, but I mean, you can block, I don't, I just, the

Bento:

majority, but at least they're, at least they're compensating you though for your effort and your time. Whereas if you're on Facebook or Instagram, you get least nasty messages. It's, you know, you're not getting anything out of it.

Sarah:

No. Or you, you know, it's crazy cuz it's like, I was chatting with this guy, uh, he was like a real estate agent and we were like, you know, texting back and forth. We were FaceTiming and you know, then he ghosts me, which it's like, it's just so common, whatever. Yeah, sure. But then a couple days later, he's like messaging me out of the blue and he is telling me like, This is why I can't do dating sites anymore. He was like, This girl that I used to date wants to date me again, but she doesn't want me talking to nobody else. So I was like, Well, you're talking to me like, what, what is happening? I said, You just ghosted me for three days right now. You want me to feel sympathetic that you got this girl, other girl on the side and you're not sure who to choose Right. So I was like, you know what, I'm, I'm gonna make this really simple for you. Just choose her. Right. Like

Bobby:

good

Sarah:

for you. I said it was crazy cuz he was like the last one I had talked to and I was like, Listen, I just started an only fans page you can join is 11. Ah,

Bobby:

nice. Did he join?

Sarah:

He, yeah. He was like, was like, stay classy. And I was like, Listen, I just did the same stuff with you for foray.

Bento:

Right, Right. Yeah. All of a sudden you put a dollar amount on it and now you're not class anymore. Right. Yeah.

Sarah:

And it's like, yeah. And he had shown me like pictures of his dick and the uh, I'm like, What, Like we were literally doing the same thing.

Bobby:

So

Bento:

funny, right? It's just like that natural, like human habit, you know? It's like you get, you get rejected and it's like, oh well now you're a slot. You know? Cause you know, it's like, it's like the thing that they go to cuz they're so, Cause

Sarah:

they can't have you. It's always the women. And it's crazy cuz I was even thinking like lots of people are only fans have partners. They might be married or whatever. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Hmm. And have you ever heard of a man being an only that got fired from their job or a man that makes content with their wife and has gotten fired on the I have not heard

Bento:

of, Oh my God. Think about like, think about Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein. Like those guys are some of the most evil people to ever walk places, planet. And they had this long ass trial and even to this day, there are still people out there that are on their side that stick up for them. You know what I mean? And they're like heinous

Sarah:

acts. It's crazy. It's just the double standard. It's crazy. And I, yeah, Even for me being like a single woman, like just being on only fans page it's, I think what's crazy to me is that I was on dating sites. I was doing the exact same stuff. I was being treated like used as a consumable because of the hookup culture. Everyone was fine with that because it's wrapped in a nice package called a dating site. Yeah. But we know about the bad behaviors on dating sites and the ghosting and, and talking with lots of people and the hookup culture. But everyone's okay with that. Like you're, you're fine with that. Yeah. You're fine with women being manipulated and used as consumables on the dating sites, but, Me being on only fans, everyone lost their damn mind.

Bento:

Right. It's control. It's, you're, it's because you're empowered. That's what they want.

Bobby:

Yeah. It's because you're control. They, they

Bento:

want you to be a subservient, not, they don't want you to be

Sarah:

empowered. Right. Yeah. No, it's because I, I figured out a way to make a dollar on what,

Bobby:

Right now you have all the control and they have none and they can't stand it.

Sarah:

Right. Exactly. When not they, And I feel like that's why people really dislike only fans is because for once in our lives, women have an empowering platform. Like you, you can make unlimit, you can make unlimited income, you can do exactly what you're doing on dating sites, but make money on it. And Uh, that's where I feel like people have this problem. Like

Bento:

if it's Right, well say, they would say about the porn industry, right? They, they, you know, the porn industry is one of the only, maybe the only profession where women are actually in control. Women make more money than the men, you know, And of course, everybody who's even slightly prudish is, you know, has something to say about it. Meanwhile, you know, they're in their incognito window and Google and looking at all that

Bobby:

stuff themselves. And I guess that they're the number one consumer. Yeah. Right.

Sarah:

That's the double standard for me is like, listen, porn is a billion dollar industry. Even the two men, men that sat at that table watch that porn. Like if, if I were to take anyone's phone and I was like, Let me look through your phone, what you're doing off the clock, Right. Report it to your boss and see if it's like nobody would give me

Bobby:

their phone. Yeah. 95% of people would be busted,

Sarah:

right? Yes. But if you are doing it privately, on your own time, in your own bedroom, What does it matter? Like it's not your employer's business, what's happening in

Bobby:

your bedroom. And it's funny too because you brought up earlier that you were an independent contractor, so that's like even more so like, I'm not one of your employees, I'm a contractor.

Sarah:

Right, right. And I don't know, it was like, I never been fired before. So a hell of a run. It was terrifying. And it all coincided with this guy, like releasing these photos and these articles coming out about me. Like it was a very, like, traumatic time. Like I couldn't even think straight. And then just the way he wrote the articles in such like a perverted way. Yeah. It was like really heartbreaking. And, uh, one of the, the saddest parts of the whole story is I started that job when my twins were in preschool and they were finally gonna be in fifth grade. Oh. And I had been working with their principal to get them to star base this year. Mm. And they were gonna be in mommy's classroom, and I was gonna get to teach them. I mean, that guy, like really, not only did he take, I, I don't know, I just feel like I'm a single mom. I'm struggling financially.

Bobby:

Right. You got it Tough enough. Why are you a target? This

Sarah:

doesn't make sense. Yeah. Like, I was already, like, uh, I had $0 in my savings account in January after Christmas, and, uh, I was working all these side jobs to, you know, try to get my help myself. I don't get child support. Like, I was literally trying to do this on my own, and it was like, I, I don't know. I feel like it was just such a heartless thing to. Intercede in my life such, in such a way to take that income from me.

Bobby:

Absolutely, Absolutely. And, and I totally agree with you. I mean, there's the, the, the fact that you were even targeted for something like that, you know, and like you said, this guy obviously has a history and his own personal strange weirdo reasons. And it is such a, a terrible thing to target somebody like yourself, especially cause you're just trying to make a living, like, you know what I mean? So one of the things I was curious about, right? Cause as you said earlier, I mean there are articles go or with your name on him. Yeah. And links to your Instagram on every single one of 'em, which at least I was, I was glad to see that. Cause I was like, well, I hope she's at least getting some back clicks here. Right? But uh, I mean even Bar Stool ran it. But did any of these places reach out to you for comment?

Sarah:

There might have been one that went to voicemail. I actually, the only one that I, I actually talked to was recently and it was The Daily Star in the uk. Okay. Yeah. We saw that one. Yep. Yep. And that one just like ran. But no, so I guess that was like a very surreal experience because it was like people were taking these screenshots and then they were taking that, that article that crazy guy wrote, and then they were like filling in pieces about me. Yes. When they didn't even know anything about.

Bobby:

And everyone, everyone referenced that original article and all of their pieces. But that was the one thing I was like, Why is there no quotes from her?

Bento:

Well, of course not. Cause that's like, that's the kind of media we live in, right? So like, there's like, all right, this is a great story. You know, put a picture of a pretty blonde on here. We get a bunch of cls and then, you know, four or five weeks down the road, probably not even, Nobody cares. Yeah. It's just, it's gone in the wind, you know what I mean?

Bobby:

Meanwhile, you're still affecting

Bento:

your side, but Yeah. But the rest of your life, you know, is gonna be significantly changed

Sarah:

cause of this. Yes. It was like, people, like all the, the like salacious news and it's interesting because it's like, especially like in our social media world, people love to find someone to hate and villain. Right? Right. And like all of a sudden I'm like getting villainized. And it's like, I'm just a regular person. I'm, I'm working all these jobs. I'm trying to do things on my own. I'm buying groceries at the Dollar Tree for my kids.

Bobby:

Did you get like hate mail or anything like that

Sarah:

after this? I got a couple like mean Instagram comments, but actually I got a lot more support.

Bento:

Good. I was gonna say, you must got a lot of subscriptions out of it, which is good. It's, it's just, it's funny cuz like little does, maybe he does know, but little does he know by him, by putting this article out, it, it actually benefited you, like, I mean, in, in real realistic terms, right? It's like you got fired from a shitty job that been sexually harassing you for God knows how long, making no money and now this guy's like, oh, like check out this girl's only fans page, and everybody's like, Okay,

Sarah:

that what happened? I went from like a hundred subscribers to over 4,000. Wow. Good for you. Like my Instagram page was like 300 subscribers and it went to 6,000. Wow. So it, I mean that did, that did help. That initial that initial media cycle helped me a lot. But it still like the, the repercussions of it, like what is my future gonna look like? Right. How Sustainables only fans Yeah. And I had only had the page a couple weeks. Like it wasn't like I was in this and like Right. Yeah.

Bobby:

Knew what I was doing. Yeah. You were brand new still. Yeah. Just like how fa how fast, like any these things, just like any of these things, it takes time to figure out how to market. Right. And do that. I mean, we went through the same thing with the podcast and I mean, it is certainly a learning curve. Yeah.

Sarah:

It's a big learning curve. Like now all of a sudden, and on my content maker. The, I don't really know anything about that. I've been a teacher for 20 years. It's, it's been a whirlwind.

Bento:

It's been crazy. Yeah, right. It's such a short span of time too, which is like crazy. You know? It's like so many emotions at once.

Sarah:

It was, it was like it was happening so fast, and then every day I'd wake up and someone would be like, Hey, you're in the New York Post. You're in. I didn't even know what Barstow Sports was. Oh, really?

Bobby:

It's amazing. Yeah. Well, Jerry Thornton right. Wrote a nice one about you, so. He did.

Sarah:

Yes. Thank you, Jerry. That one was like a kind one. I just learned not to ever go read the comments

Bobby:

cause Oh my God, Soof to stay away from there. Never read the comments about

Bento:

your own post. Never. It's fine. Listen to Joe, Joe Ro often, and Joe Rogan says the same thing. He's like, no matter what content I post, like, I never ever read the comments and like, I never, I never read, uh, private messages from people on social media. Like Yeah,

Sarah:

Yeah, you can't, But like, I wasn't ever expecting to be like a public figure. Like Sure, yeah. That known for something like this.

Bento:

Right. Yeah. I just hoping to have a little side hustle. Maybe a couple hundred, couple hundred subscriptions get you through a couple months, you know?

Sarah:

Right. Yeah. That was the, that was the thought was like, Right. You know, See, see what I can get going. Do this on the side. My boss was encouraging me, so why? I mean, it was like, why would I. Why

Bobby:

am I not? Yeah. You're sitting there feeling like, I, I should go for this.

Bento:

Yeah,

Sarah:

Right, right. Well, after he said, Sell your panties online, I was like, ok. The

Bento:

boss said, So

Sarah:

you got it right. Yeah. I I do feel like that conversation should have been brought up at the termination though. But I, I know people like, uh, you know, everyone's worried about their jobs, but I don't have anything to lose, so I'm, my mom told me. Uh, but it's, it's crazy cause it's like even looking back on my story. You know, my dad died homeless, living in a park when I was 16. Wow. My mom was a single mom who was caught up in the poverty cycle, and I was like, I know people would be shocked, but I was like the good girl and I did like everything. Right. And I went, I was like first generation college graduate. Yeah. But I went into teaching and then when I found myself to be a single mom, it. Put me into this poverty cycle that I never anticipated being in. Right. And it was like I was grasping at anything to, to help myself get out of it, but it was like I couldn't work hard enough to do it. Yeah. It wasn't enough

Bento:

hard work. Right. Not enough time in the day too. Taking

Bobby:

care of your kids. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Sounds like you were working hard with all those, you know, trying all those various side hustles too. Right. And that's why I think, you know, outta everything I had read before we had spoken to, that's the biggest piece that I think that people left out, right. That like, it's not like you were doing this. Like who would this refund? Like you were trying to make money, put food on the table and you know, people out there pay for only fans. I'm willing to do

Sarah:

this. And you know, like, you know when you're so broke and you're like, Okay, I gotta get

Bobby:

gas. Yeah. What, what can I sell? Right.

Sarah:

What can I sell or do I have to put it on the credit card? Cuz I don't get paid for another week.

Bento:

Right. That I'll throw, I'll throw two bucks in, that'll get me to working back and then when I get paid on Friday, I'll have money to put more

in,

Bobby:

you know? Yeah,

Sarah:

sure. And that forbid when I had to have my alternator fixed and that was a thousand dollars, it was just like, I don't know, I, it's just kinda like, I don't know what people wanted from me because I did, I did do the all the things, you know, like I didn't just only fans wasn't the the la the first thought.

Bobby:

Yeah, it was the last resort kind of thing. Yeah. But it

Bento:

doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter if it was the last or the first, you know, like you didn't do anything wrong is the Yeah. Is the, is the moral the story, you know, And

Bobby:

how, how many hours were you actually working as a teacher? Like it was a full-time gig as a contractor,

Sarah:

right? Yeah, it was full time and I was gonna have July off, like I said. So that was my goal, was to start it then. Focus July and see if, can I make any money on there? If I hadn't made any money, maybe I wouldn't have even pursued it. Going back to like, I don't know, because all of a sudden I'm like thrust and the only fans because of my income source. Right. So I don't know. It's like I, I wasn't even given the opportunity to like, pursue it or explore it or see, see if it was work or pay off for me before just blew up. Yeah. In the most like, crazy dramatic way. But it is interesting because the, the boss who fired me, my boss had told him, Because he saw me struggling and stuff, and he was like, Hey, I really wanna make some coffee mugs up for the teachers as a giveaway. So he told his boss that. He was like, Hey, do you think, uh, we could put an order in with Sarah? She's making mugs on the side. And, and that boss, the boss that fired me had said, no. What I'll do is purchase the equipment and she can make the stuff at work for us Jesus. So I just feel like I tried doing all the right, Right. It was like nothing I did was ever good. And like,

Bento:

I'll tell you what, Sarah, it sounds like, uh, you know, it sounds like you've come out on the better side of this, which is good. And I'm, it's nice to see that you're doing well, especially that, you know, basement blog or going through a divorce. So

Bobby:

I gotta ask, I gotta ask Sarah, please tell me you're making more money now on only fans than you were as a teacher.

Sarah:

I was in July, but then after that media cycle ended, it's been a little tight, like, all right. My, I'm probably making the same amount I was making so I've been working with like a PR team trying to get things going. Okay. So, I don't know. It's like I don't know. It's, it feels like a really scary

Bobby:

time. I bet. I bet. Whoa. Let us give you this opportunity then. Let everyone know right now, all listeners, where can they find you, where they can start paying you some money?

Sarah:

Yeah. You sure can. Uh, uh, it's love underscore Miss Sarah with an h. Underscore unlocked. That's my subscription page. I'm working on growing that, and then it's like 11 bucks. You get all my content, you get to talk with me, and I'll even do a free report card for you. If you go, if you go to my subscription page, just tell me. Freeing. There we go. Free, free decorating a $10 value.

Bento:

Tell 'em you find 'em on, Tell 'em you find on shoe dumb dudes to get a free decorating. Yeah, that's right Bobby, you get an.

Bobby:

Without even getting graded. Please man. I got a plus over here,

Bento:

Awesome. Well, Sarah, I really appreciate you coming on and teaching two dumb dudes about this. Uh, this is a very fascinating story. And honestly, I, you know, I think I speak for Bobby too. Like we both wish you the best of luck. All this we have

Bobby:

out for you. Absolutely. We, we want you to win it in the end.

Sarah:

Thank you. I do too. I, I feel like I just have to keep telling myself I'm blessed and unstoppable, so

Bobby:

That's right guys. Right. One day at a time. Awesome. Well, best of luck, Sarah. Thank you so much for coming on and, uh, hopefully, hopefully we get you a couple more, uh, subscribers for you. All right, sounds good. Thank. Thanks, Sarah. Take care, Sarah.

Bento:

Bye.